An Attempt To Defend The Nasty Bits In The Bible

This page is written by Diana Holbourn, the site owner.

I can't do an adequate defence of all the gruesome passages in the Bible. I find a lot of them offensive. I especially can't stand passages like the bits in the Book of Joshua that describe how the Hebrews who invaded and settled the land now known as Israel set cities - albeit very small cities by today's standards - on fire, and killed every last one of the people. I can't read many passages like that in one go. I find them sickening. Nevertheless, I will suggest some reasons for the existence of the Bible's gruesome passages.


There are some warlike passages that the Bible doesn't explain the existence of and which are thus difficult to understand. For example, I don't understand how David could, before he became king of ancient Israel, have lived in Philistine territory and led his men on raids against other places, killing every last one of the people there, and then after he became king, have gone to war against other countries - and yet still have been described as a man after God's own heart! However, I don't feel I can really make a judgment, because I don't know all the facts of the circumstances he was in. It may be that the inhabitants of some of those places were warlike people who habitually raided others, which was apparently the way some semi-nomadic people survived in those days. And the Bible does indicate that David was not wholly approved of by God. For instance, it says:

(1 Chronicles chapter 22, TEV)

6 [King David] sent for his son Solomon and commanded him to build a temple for the Lord, the God of Israel. 7 David said to him, "Son, I wanted to build a temple to honor the Lord my God. 8 But the Lord told me that I had killed too many people and fought too many wars. And so, because of all the bloodshed I have caused, he would not let me build a temple for him. 9 He did, however, make me a promise. He said, "You will have a son who will rule in peace, because I will give him peace from all his enemies. His name will be Solomon, because during his reign I will give Israel peace and security. 10 He will build a temple for me."


Later in this article I will address the question of whether the Bible really was written under God's authority, as it claims to have been. If it was, it means that commands to drive people out of their land or kill them, which were claimed as originating from God, really must have done. However, for the time being, I will assume that the gruesome scriptures really were written under the authority of God.


Another difficult thing to understand is how God could - as the Bible says he did - command hundreds of years after an Amalekite army launched an unprovoked attack against the ancient Hebrews while they were journeying through the desert under the leadership of Moses, that an Israelite king should pay the Amalekites back, launching an attack against them, killing men, women, children and babies - people who were obviously not the ones responsible for the attack hundreds of years earlier against the Israelites in the desert! However, some illumination can be gained by reading an article on the matter which mentions the Amalekites' record of continued violence against the Israelites, and argues that war was a necessity to eliminate the threat, and that killing everybody including the women and children was in fact the most humane option, bearing in mind that the Amalekites were apparently desert peoples who had little means of subsistence, who used raiding as a means of alleviating the harshness of the conditions they lived in; and without the men to carry it out, the women and children who had fled the battle scene would probably have died of starvation; and they would also have been vulnerable to being taken captive as slaves by marauders. To read further, visit: Shouldn't the butchering of the Amalekite children be considered war crimes?

Jews living today could possibly use the precedent of God's judgment against the Amalekites as a justification for attacking nations that attacked their people in the past. However, apart from the fact that they would have to argue convincingly that that command wasn't just meant for the particular occasion it spoke of in order to be credible to anyone, in another part of the Old Testament, the Bible says that God said:

(Deuteronomy chapter 32, NLT)

35 I will take vengeance; I will repay those who deserve it.

In the New Testament, this verse is quoted and interpreted to mean that people shouldn't take revenge themselves, but they should leave it to God. This means that no one can claim God's authority to do a thing unless God specifically decrees that it should be done. However, this meaning isn't apparent from the actual Old Testament verse. There is another passage, however, which says, in the context of Moses giving the people of Israel commands that he himself had received for them from God:

(Leviticus chapter 19, TEV)

17 "Do not bear a grudge against others, but settle your differences with them, so that you will not commit a sin because of them. 18 Do not take revenge on others or continue to hate them, but love your neighbors as you love yourself. I am the Lord."

There are verses in the Book of Proverbs in the Old Testament that advise people not to take revenge against others; but since by definition proverbs are wise sayings rather than being meant as absolute truth, anyone wanting to use God's command to attack the Amalekites as a precedent for attacking other nations wouldn't necessarily take them as instructions and be put off doing so by them.

But Jews who only accept the authority of the Old Testament and are unaware of the verse in Leviticus could still be cautioned about using the Bible as a justification for attacking past enemies. Hundreds of years after the time of Moses, Old Testament prophets proclaimed that God was about to punish other peoples for taking revenge on the Jews, that was motivated by their bitter feelings borne out of previous conflicts. The Jews were certainly not exempt from God's discipline, but suffered themselves at the hands of Babylonian invaders, - a fate described by Old Testament prophets as God's punishment for their evil ways. Since the Jews were not considered exempt from God's discipline, it would be possible that the same type of punishment decreed against other nations for taking revenge on the Jews because of past conflicts could also befall the Jews for doing it to others.


This is why it's important to be familiar with the whole Bible rather than just bits of it. The Bible could be a dangerous book if parts of it were read out of the context of the rest of it. I suppose Hitler could have claimed to be a Christian and tried to justify the atrocities committed at his command by quoting Old Testament passages about how disasters like wars befell the Jews as a punishment from God for their sins. However, in order to justify his own actions, he would have to have claimed that he had God's authority to bring disaster on them - a claim he obviously couldn't have used the Bible to support. The Bible doesn't say that every atrocity committed against the Jews would be because of their sins. his quoting of the Bible to justify himself would have been disingenuous. Furthermore, using the same logic that he would have to have used, if he'd read the many prophecies about the punishment that was to be inflicted by God on the enemies of the Jews because they'd harmed them, he might have realised that he would be well-advised to leave them alone!


Hitler may also have convinced people that he was justified in his actions by using the example of the passages in the Old Testament from the Law of Moses about how the ancient Israelites were commanded to kill or drive out everyone in the land they were about to enter, conquer and settle - the land now known as Israel, partly to preserve their purity. He could have twisted it so people thought it meant that racial purity should be preserved, and argued that ethnic cleansing was thus necessary to purify the German race. However, if he had, he would probably have been deliberately twisting the Bible's meaning. The passages that commanded the Israelites to kill and drive out all the people in the land spoke of spiritual purity - allegiance and obedience to only one God. The Israelites were commanded to kill the people or force them to flee their country partly so they wouldn't entice the Jews into worshipping the many gods that they worshipped, for whom they performed customs described as disgusting, such as child sacrifice. Besides, there is no indication in the Bible that this was anything but a one-off command.


The destruction of the Pagan civilisations of South and Central America by the Spanish conquistadors a few hundred years ago could have been easily justified by their leaders as God's command because of some of the things the Old Testament says. In the books of Kings and Chronicles, it gives example after example of how when kings allowed their people to worship Pagan gods, disasters befell their countries as a punishment from God, but when they got rid of the Pagan places of worship, their countries were at peace and prospered; although the Old Testament prophets said the punishments also had a lot to do with other things they were doing, like oppressing and robbing the poor, and being violent, as well as performing the practices that the Pagans of the day performed for their gods, such as child sacrifice.

And in the Law of Moses, it does, horrifyingly to the modern mind, say:

(Deuteronomy chapter 13, TEV)

12 "When you are living in the towns that the Lord your God gives you, you may hear 13 that some worthless people of your nation have misled the people of their town to worship gods that you have never worshiped before. 14 If you hear such a rumor, investigate it thoroughly; and if it is true that this evil thing did happen, 15 then kill all the people in that town and all their livestock too. Destroy that town completely. 16 Bring together all the possessions of the people who live there and pile them up in the town square. Then burn the town and everything in it as an offering to the Lord your God. It must be left in ruins forever and never again be rebuilt."

The command was given specifically to the people of ancient Israel, however, which was intended to be a theocracy, a chosen nation governed by the laws of God.

One thing that can help to explain the severity of this passage is that in turning away from God to worship other gods, the Israelites were also forsaking God's commands. They were turning to sinful practices that hurt their fellow countrymen, such as those the prophets spoke out against like their callous disregard for the needs of the poor and oppressed, in contravention of God's laws. They were warned by Moses that if they behaved in the ways in which the nations that would be driven out of the land to make room for Israel behaved, they too would be driven out. Prophets later predicted this fate for Israel because the people were behaving so sinfully. If the people hadn't forsaken the worship of God and his commands, they would never have caused the suffering of many of their fellow countrymen by the immoral and brutal behaviour they are described as indulging in by the prophets. More strikingly, in worshiping other gods, they would have been performing practices like child sacrifice that the people of their time committed in the worship of their gods. Thus, in ordering that they should be killed, God was basically ordering that the death penalty should be exacted upon them for murder.

The passage in which the command that the people of Israel should kill the inhabitants of any of their own cities who turned to other gods can be found states that killing people for trying to lead others away from God was meant as a deterrent against the people who were supposed to be following God from turning away from him:

(Deuteronomy chapter 13, GWT)

11 All Israel will hear about it and be afraid. Then no one among you will ever do such a wicked thing again.

In any case, if the Spanish conquistadors had known the Bible really well, they wouldn't have been under the impression that they could use its authority to forcefully rid the lands they conquered of Paganism themselves, at least not just because it was Paganism. Apart from the fact that all such Old Testament commands and examples concerned the theocracy of ancient Israel, in the New Testament, it becomes clear that the strategy towards Pagans had been meant for them and was not meant for Christians. To give an example of a Bible passage that indicates this: In one of the apostle Paul's letters, he said to a group of people who were newly converted to Christianity because of his preaching to them:

(1 Thessalonians chapter 1, NLT)

4 We know that God loves you, dear brothers and sisters, and that he chose you to be his own people. ... 8 And now the word of the Lord is ringing out from you to people everywhere, even beyond Greece, for wherever we go we find people telling us about your faith in God. We don't need to tell them about it, 9 for they themselves keep talking about the wonderful welcome you gave us and how you turned away from idols to serve the true and living God.

That implies that Christians were expected not to be violent, but to tell Pagans about God in the hope that they'd turn to follow him.

An earlier book in the New Testament, the Acts of the Apostles, describes how Paul travelled around preaching about Christianity. It says that he explained the gospel message to Pagans, in an attempt to persuade them to become Christians. Nowhere does it say that he instructed Christians to be violent towards them. In a couple of his letters, he instructed people to imitate his behaviour patterns.

The reason for the two very different attitudes to Pagans can partly be explained by what the New Testament says about the Law of Moses, which was the part of the Bible that commanded that those who might entice the Israelites to worship Pagan gods should be killed.

Firstly, there is a New Testament passage that can only be understood in the context of the relevant Old Testament verses that say:

(Exodus chapter 34, TEV)

29 When Moses went down from Mount Sinai carrying the Ten Commandments, his face was shining because he had been speaking with the Lord; but he did not know it. 30 Aaron and all the people looked at Moses and saw that his face was shining, and they were afraid to go near him. 31 But Moses called them, and Aaron and all the leaders of the community went to him, and Moses spoke with them. 32 After that, all the people of Israel gathered around him, and Moses gave them all the laws that the Lord had given him on Mount Sinai.

The apostle Paul wrote in a letter which is in the New Testament:

(2 Corinthians chapter 3, TEV)

6 ... the new covenant ... consists not of a written law but of the Spirit. The written law brings death, but the Spirit gives life. 7 The Law was carved in letters on stone tablets, and God's glory appeared when it was given. Even though the brightness on Moses' face was fading, it was so strong that the people of Israel could not keep their eyes fixed on him. If the Law, which brings death when it is in force, came with such glory, 8 how much greater is the glory that belongs to the activity of the Spirit! 9 The system which brings condemnation was glorious; how much more glorious is the activity which brings salvation! 10 We may say that because of the far brighter glory now the glory that was so bright in the past is gone. 11 For if there was glory in that which lasted for a while, how much more glory is there in that which lasts forever!


The Holy Spirit, which the passage refers to, is said by the Bible to be a part of God, who can also indwell Christians to help make them less sinful. To read more about it, and about what the Bible says about other spirits, visit: What The Bible Says About The Life-Changing Power Of The Holy Spirit, And Other Spirits.

So instead of deserving death for having broken the Law of Moses, the Bible indicates that the ideal is that Pagans should become Christians, receive the Holy Spirit, and live rejuvenated lives.


Quoting some of the things Paul, who himself was Jewish, wrote in other letters to Christians, about the Law that Moses gave to the ancient Israelites, which actually had a multitude of little commands concerning behaviour, festivals and ceremonial rules, he said:

(1 Corinthians chapter 9, NLT)

20 When I am with the Jews, I become one of them so that I can bring them to Christ. When I am with those who follow the Jewish laws, I do the same, even though I am not subject to the law, so that I can bring them to Christ. 21 When I am with the Gentiles who do not have the Jewish law, I fit in with them as much as I can. In this way, I gain their confidence and bring them to Christ. But I do not discard the law of God; I obey the law of Christ.

(Galatians chapter 3, NLT)

19 Well then, why was the law given? It was given to show people how guilty they are.

21 If the law could have given us new life, we could have been made right with God by obeying it. 22 But the Scriptures have declared that we are all prisoners of sin. ... 23 Until faith in Christ was shown to us as the way of becoming right with God, we were guarded by the law. We were kept in protective custody, so to speak, until we could put our faith in the coming Savior. 24 Let me put it another way. The law was our guardian and teacher to lead us until Christ came. ... 25 But now that faith in Christ has come, we no longer need the law as our guardian.

(Galatians chapter 4, NLT)

4 When the right time came, God sent his Son, born of a woman, subject to the law. 5 God sent him to buy freedom for us who were slaves to the law, so that he could adopt us as his very own children. 6 And because you Gentiles have become his children, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, and now you can call God your dear Father. 7 ... And since you are his child, everything he has belongs to you.

(Romans chapter 7, NLT)

5 When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced sinful deeds, resulting in death. 6 But now we have been released from the law, for we died with Christ, and we are no longer captive to its power. Now we can really serve God, not in the old way by obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way, by the Spirit.

(Romans chapter 13, TEV)

8 Be under obligation to no one-the only obligation you have is to love one another. Whoever does this has obeyed the Law. 9 The commandments,
"Do not commit adultery;
do not commit murder;
do not steal;
do not desire what belongs to someone else"
all these, and any others besides, are summed up in the one command, "Love your neighbor as you love yourself." 10 If you love others, you will never do them wrong; to love, then, is to obey the whole Law.


Besides the specific information Paul gives about how the Old Testament relates to the New, he and other apostles give many instructions to Christians to be peaceful, loving, gentle and considerate. You can read such Bible passages by visiting: What The Bible Says About Violence, Anger, Jealousy, Arguments, And Living In Peace With Each Other.

Christianity was nowhere near becoming a state religion in Bible times, and so there are no specific instructions for Christian leaders on the way a Christian country should treat Pagans, but they can infer how one ought to behave by following his instructions for Christians in general.

However, there are certain practices that have been carried out by Pagans in the past as part of their religion and/or that in some parts of the world are still happening, that ethically should not be tolerated by a Christian leader. See, for example, the descriptions of practices in these articles:

Sometimes, one must of necessity appear unloving to certain individuals when punishing or disciplining them, in order to protect others.


Anyone who has read the New Testament verses I've quoted will know that Christians aren't expected to forcefully clear the land of Pagans nowadays. The danger comes when people take bits of the Bible out of the context of the entirety of it.


But that leaves the question of why the punishments decreed by the Law were so harsh. Many offences, such as adultery, and even working on the Sabbath, were punishable by the death penalty; and some were punishable by the infliction of physical injury. (It maybe that the harsh punishment for working on the Sabbath was partly designed to be a deterrent to anyone thinking of exploiting their workers by making them work seven days a week).

In the New Testament, it says that the Law of Moses is a guide to what should be considered wrongdoing; and the punishments prescribed by it do indicate that the offences were considered serious. However, it may be that it is up to governments and courts nowadays to fix punishments they consider appropriate for things that are generally considered to be crimes or transgressions. After all, the prison system wasn't very sophisticated and widespread in the time of Moses, or it may have been used more often instead of the death penalty.

To give the example of adultery, Old Testament law taught:

(Leviticus chapter 20, CEV)

10 If any of you men have sex with another man's wife, both you and the woman will be put to death.

A New Testament passage, however, indicates that leaders should use their own judgment in dealing with adulterers. To give the background to it: At the time when Jesus Christ lived, the Romans were occupying Israel and had forbidden the Jews to carry out the death penalties which their law had commanded them to do. Some enemies of Jesus among the Jewish leadership wanted to trap him into saying that a particular woman caught in adultery should be killed, in order that they could accuse him of speaking out against Roman rules. If, on the other hand, he'd said that she shouldn't be killed because of the Roman regulation forbidding them to use the death penalty, the Jewish leaders could have accused him of being a collaborator with the Romans or a heretic who was implying that Roman law superseded God's law. The Bible says:

(John chapter 8, CEV)

1 Jesus walked out to the Mount of Olives. 2 Then early the next morning he went to the temple. The people came to him, and he sat down and started teaching them. 3 The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law of Moses brought in a woman who had been caught in bed with a man who wasn't her husband. They made her stand in the middle of the crowd. 4 Then they said, "Teacher, this woman was caught sleeping with a man who isn't her husband. 5 The Law of Moses teaches that a woman like this should be stoned to death! What do you say?"
6 They asked Jesus this question, because they wanted to test him and bring some charge against him. But Jesus simply bent over and started writing on the ground with his finger.
7 They kept on asking Jesus about the woman. Finally, he stood up and said, "If any of you have never sinned, then go ahead and throw the first stone at her!" 8 Once again he bent over and began writing on the ground.
9 The people left one by one, beginning with theoldest.Finally,Jesusand the woman were there alone.
10 Jesus stood up and asked her, "Where is everyone? Isn't there anyone left to accuse you?"
11 "No sir," the woman answered.
Then Jesus told her, "I am not going to accuse you either. You may go now, but don't sin anymore."


Jesus could have simply replied to the Jewish leaders as he did to evade their question. But he wasn't afraid of saying things that could bring down the wrath of the Jewish leaders against him.

Therefore, his response suggests that the Old Testament punishments ought to be tempered with mercy where appropriate.


I personally believe that adultery should be illegal unless both husband and wife have consented to it, because of the suffering it causes the wronged party. I think that people who can be proved to be habitual offenders ought to risk a term of imprisonment. But I think that people caught for the first time should be offered marriage counselling. Hopefully the deterrent factor of a possible prison sentence would dissuade many people from having affairs. It has been argued that it wouldn't, since bank robbery is punished with imprisonment and yet banks still get robbed. But how many more banks might be robbed if bank robbery was no longer considered a crime!

The deterrent principle has been seen to work. I heard that up until recent times, Saudi Arabia was one of the safest places in the world to live. One of the reasons for this was because of the harsh punishments decreed for crimes - for instance, theft was punishable by the amputation of a hand. I'm not suggesting that punishments like that ought to be introduced in the Western world - and in fact that was a harsher punishment than the one decreed by the Law of Moses, which commanded that thieves should pay for what they stole twice, four or five times over, depending on the circumstances, or if they couldn't pay, they had to be forced to work as slaves until the equivalent worth of the amount they stole and the amount due as a penalty was paid.


The Bible does specifically say in The Law of Moses that the reason for some of the harsh punishments it decreed was that they would be a deterrent. To give an example of the punishment decreed for one type of wrongdoing, it says:

(Deuteronomy chapter 19, TEV)

16 If any of you try to harm another by false accusations, 17 both of you are to go to the one place of worship and be judged by the priests and judges who are then in office. 18 The judges will investigate the case thoroughly; and if you have made a false accusation, 19 you are to receive the punishment the accused would have received. In this way your nation will get rid of this evil. 20 Then everyone else will hear what happened; they will be afraid, and no one will ever again do such an evil thing. 21 In such cases show no mercy; the punishment is to be a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand, and a foot for a foot.


Another part of Moses' teaching that seems harsh is his command to the Israelites to kill and drive out the inhabitants of the land they were entering to possess. He said:

(Deuteronomy chapter 9, NLT)

1 "Hear, O Israel! Today you are about to cross the Jordan River to occupy the land belonging to nations much greater and more powerful than you. They live in cities with walls that reach to the sky! 2 They are strong and tall - descendants of the famous Anakite giants. You've heard the saying, 'Who can stand up to the Anakites?' 3 But the LORD your God will cross over ahead of you like a devouring fire to destroy them. He will subdue them so that you will quickly conquer them and drive them out, just as the LORD has promised.

4 "After the LORD your God has done this for you, don't say to yourselves, 'The LORD has given us this land because we are so righteous!' No, it is because of the wickedness of the other nations that he is doing it. 5 It is not at all because you are such righteous, upright people that you are about to occupy their land. The LORD your God will drive these nations out ahead of you only because of their wickedness, and to fulfill the oath he had sworn to your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 6 I will say it again: The LORD your God is not giving you this good land because you are righteous, for you are not - you are a stubborn people.


Here is a link to an article on this and other such commands which concludes that they weren't as bad as they sound, because the majority of them commanded the Israelites to "drive out" the Canaanites rather than to kill them, and they were apparently semi-nomadic anyway, so leaving wouldn't have been so bad. Many Canaanites would have been able to migrate away from their land before the Israelites arrived, since they would have been given warning that they were on the way. The article claims that there is evidence that the Canaanites had a history of aggression against other nations and a degenerate culture, and that it was the effects of these that God wanted the Israelites to destroy rather than the people themselves, partly to protect surrounding nations, and partly so the Canaanites wouldn't influence the Israelites to start committing such things as human sacrifice and ritual prostitution, as they did in the worship of their gods, and which they would stop doing if they had to leave their worship centres and were assimilated into other cultures. To read it, visit:
How could a God of Love order the massacre/annihilation of the Canaanites?

One of the possible reasons why the Israelites were given laws with such harsh punishments for the people of their own community and why they were commanded to kill everyone who remained in the land they were entering to settle may have been because they were described as being "hard to teach" - that is, they would not readily follow all God's commands. Jesus said so, in the following passage.

The Bible says:

(Matthew chapter 19, TEV)

3 Some Pharisees came to [Jesus] and tried to trap him by asking, "Does our Law allow a man to divorce his wife for whatever reason he wishes?"

4 Jesus answered, "Haven't you read the scripture that says that in the beginning the Creator made people male and female? 5 And God said, "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and unite with his wife, and the two will become one.' 6 So they are no longer two, but one. No human being must separate, then, what God has joined together."

7 The Pharisees asked him, "Why, then, did Moses give the law for a man to hand his wife a divorce notice and send her away?"

8 Jesus answered, "Moses gave you permission to divorce your wives because you are so hard to teach."


This bears some relation to why the God of the Old Testament is considered harsh and quick to punish, whereas the commands of Jesus seem loving. It is argued that God was addressing two different sets of people, of whom he could expect very different moral standards. There would have been no point in preaching about turning the other cheek, for example, and using reason, with people who were engaged in all manner of cruel practices, or who wouldn't have had a mature enough attitude to morality to understand the teaching. They would have to have been punished, to show them that their behaviour was bad and to make them stop it. The article's called:
Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Development.


To digress for a minute, another example of a command of the law that may have been a compromise was:

(Deuteronomy chapter 21, NIV)

10 When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.


Giving a command allowing people to force women to marry them sounds abhorrent. But if the people interpreted it as meaning that if they wanted to have sex with a captive woman they would have to take her into their home, wait a full month and then marry her first, it may at least have cut down on the sexual brutality common in war.

It has been claimed that the Old Testament laws were especially harsh towards women. Some sound very unpleasant. But to read a perspective that argues that they wouldn't have been quite as severe as they sound, because the punishments would only have been meted out after the person accused of a transgression would have been allowed to defend themselves in a trial, bringing forth any mitigating circumstances, and that the reason the laws were so harsh was because the well-being of whole communities was at steak, see a discussion of some laws that seem especially oppressive: Are the laws in the Old Testament about rape and virginity unfair to women?


The Bible has also been protested against because it apparently condones slavery. But to read articles that contend that slavery in Bible times was often not the oppressive kind of slavery of the modern era, visit:
Does God condone slavery in the Bible? (Old Testament)
And Does God condone slavery in the Bible? (New Testament)

It may be, also, that the laws on slavery were again a compromise, since owning slaves was so much a part of the culture of the day. So The laws regulated how they were to be treated, rather than forbidding slavery altogether. It may have meant that there was at least some hope of persuading the people who were "hard to teach" to obey those laws.

The harsh punishments in the law may also have served as a deterrent for the people of the Israelite community.


And perhaps, besides the assertion that the Israelite conquest was a punishment on the inhabitants of the land they were conquering, if the ancient Jews had been allowed to intermingle with the people instead of being commanded to kill and drive them all out, there wouldn't have been a hope that they would have remained faithful to God, and then Jesus Christ wouldn't have been able to come and die to take the punishment for the sins of mankind so that his followers won't have to pay for them after their deaths, as the New Testament teaches he did, because there wouldn't have been a country with an appropriate culture for him to have been born into. Nobody but the Jews would have had him killed for claiming to be the Son of God, as they did, - or at least that was their outward motive - a claim which they considered to be in contravention of the Law of Moses, because they must have thought he was claiming to be another god.


Some people find the fact of Jesus' death offensive, wondering how God could be at all humane if he allowed his "son" to be killed cruelly on a cross. But the Bible quotes Jesus himself as saying:

(John chapter 10, TEV)

14 I am the good shepherd. As the Father knows me and I know the Father, in the same way I know my sheep and they know me. And I am willing to die for them.

17 "The Father loves me because I am willing to give up my life, in order that I may receive it back again. 18 No one takes my life away from me. I give it up of my own free will. I have the right to give it up, and I have the right to take it back. This is what my Father has commanded me to do."

27 "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never die. No one can snatch them away from me. 29 What my Father has given me is greater than everything, and no one can snatch them away from the Father's care. 30 The Father and I are one."

In the First Letter of Peter in the New Testament, he wrote to Christians:

1 Peter chapter 1 (NLT)

13 Think clearly and exercise self-control. Look forward to the special blessings that will come to you at the return of Jesus Christ. 14 Obey God because you are his children. Don't slip back into your old ways of doing evil; you didn't know any better then. 15 But now you must be holy in everything you do, just as God - who chose you to be his children - is holy. 16 For he himself has said, "You must be holy because I am holy." 17 And remember that the heavenly Father to whom you pray has no favorites when he judges. He will judge or reward you according to what you do. So you must live in reverent fear of him during your time as foreigners here on earth. 18 For you know that God paid a ransom to save you from the empty life you inherited from your ancestors. And the ransom he paid was not mere gold or silver. 19 He paid for you with the precious lifeblood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God. 20 God chose him for this purpose long before the world began, but now in these final days, he was sent to the earth for all to see. And he did this for you. 21 Through Christ you have come to trust in God. And because God raised Christ from the dead and gave him great glory, your faith and hope can be placed confidently in God.


The Jews who lived in the centuries after Moses had led them, on the other hand, often did not show allegiance to God. Old Testament passages not only condemned them for turning away from God to follow other gods, but also for disobeying his commands - which would logically follow such behaviour. Hundreds of years after the time of Moses, Old Testament prophets, when warning the people that disaster was going to befall them at the hands of the ancient Babylonian army - an invasion they said was brought about by God because of the failure of the Jews to obey him - not only condemned them because of their worship of other gods, but also because of their disregard for his commands. For instance, the Old Testament prophet Ezekiel said:

(Ezekiel chapter 22, NLT)

1 Now this message came to me from the LORD: 2 "Son of man, are you ready to judge Jerusalem? Are you ready to judge this city of murderers? Denounce her terrible deeds in public, 3 and give her this message from the Sovereign LORD: O city of murderers, doomed and damned - city of idols, filthy and foul - 4 you are guilty of both murder and idolatry. Your day of destruction has come! You have reached the end of your years. I will make you an object of mockery throughout the world. 5 O infamous city, filled with confusion, you will be mocked by people both far and near.

6 "Every leader in Israel who lives within your walls is bent on murder. 7 Fathers and mothers are contemptuously ignored. Resident foreigners are forced to pay for protection. Orphans and widows are wronged and oppressed. ... 9 People accuse others falsely and send them to their death. You are filled with idol worshipers and people who take part in lewd activities. .. 11 Within your walls live men who commit adultery with their neighbors' wives, who defile their daughters-in-law or who rape their own sisters. 12 There are hired murderers, loan racketeers, and extortioners everywhere! They never even think of me and my commands, says the Sovereign LORD.

13 "But now I clap my hands in indignation over your dishonest gain and bloodshed. 14 How strong and courageous will you be in my day of reckoning? I, the LORD, have spoken! I will do what I have said. 15 I will scatter you among the nations and purge you of your wickedness. 16 And when you have been dishonored among the nations, you will know that I am the LORD."

To quote more of what the prophets said regarding the sins of the people:

(Ezekiel chapter 23, NLT)

37 They have committed both adultery and murder - adultery by worshiping idols and murder by burning their children as sacrifices on their altars. 38 Then after doing these terrible things, they defiled my Temple and violated my Sabbath day! 39 On the very day that they murdered their children in front of their idols, they boldly came into my Temple to worship! They came in and defiled my house!

(Hosea chapter 4, TEV)

1 The Lord has an accusation to bring against the people who live in this land. Listen, Israel, to what he says: "There is no faithfulness or love in the land, and the people do not acknowledge me as God. 2 They make promises and break them; they lie, murder, steal, and commit adultery. Crimes increase, and there is one murder after another.

(Isaiah chapter 5, NIV)

7 The ... LORD Almighty ... looked for justice, but saw bloodshed; for righteousness, but heard cries of distress.

(Isaiah chapter 10, NIV)

1 Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, 2 to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless.

(Amos chapter 5 (GWT)

10 Israel, you hate anyone who speaks out against injustice. You are disgusted by anyone who speaks the truth. 11 You trample on the poor and take their wheat from them for taxes. That is why you build houses from hand-cut stones, but you will not live in them. You plant beautiful vineyards, but you will not drink their wine. 12 I know that your crimes are numerous and your sins are many. You oppress the righteous by taking bribes. You deny the needy access to the courts. 13 That is why a wise person remains silent at such times, because those times are so evil. 14 Search for good instead of evil so that you may live. Then the LORD God of Armies will be with you, as you have said [he is]. 15 Hate evil and love good. Then you will be able to have justice in your courts. Maybe the LORD God of Armies will have pity on the faithful few of Joseph.

(Amos chapter 8, TEV)

4 Listen to this, you that trample on the needy and try to destroy the poor of the country. 5 You say to yourselves, "We can hardly wait for the holy days to be over so that we can sell our grain. When will the Sabbath end, so that we can start selling again? Then we can overcharge, use false measures, and fix the scales to cheat our customers. 6 We can sell worthless wheat at a high price. We'll find someone poor who can't pay his debts, not even the price of a pair of sandals, and we'll buy him as a slave."

(Isaiah chapter 5, TEV)

22 You are doomed! Heroes of the wine bottle! Brave and fearless when it comes to mixing drinks! 23 But for just a bribe you let the guilty go free, and you keep the innocent from getting justice.

(Hosea chapter 4, NLT)

12 They are asking a piece of wood to tell them what to do! They think a stick can tell them the future! Longing after idols has made them foolish. They have played the prostitute, serving other gods and deserting their God. 13 They offer sacrifices to idols on the tops of mountains. They go up into the hills to burn incense in the pleasant shade of oaks, poplars, and other trees. That is why your daughters turn to prostitution, and your daughters-in-law commit adultery. 14 Why should I punish them? For you men are doing the same thing, sinning with whores and shrine prostitutes. O foolish people! You will be destroyed, for you refuse to understand. 15 Their worship is mere pretense as they take oaths in the LORD's name. 18 The men of Israel finish up their drinking bouts and off they go to find some prostitutes. Their love for shame is greater than their love for honor. 19 So a mighty wind will sweep them away. They will die in shame because they offer sacrifices to idols.

(Jeremiah chapter 9, TEV)

1 I wish my head were a well of water, and my eyes a fountain of tears, so that I could cry day and night for my people who have been killed. 2 I wish I had a place to stay in the desert where I could get away from my people. They are all unfaithful, a mob of traitors. 3 They are always ready to tell lies; dishonesty instead of truth rules the land.

The Lord says, "My people do one evil thing after another and do not acknowledge me as their God." 4 Everyone must be on guard against their friends, and no one can trust their relatives; for all relatives are as deceitful as Jacob, and everyone slanders their friends. 5 They all mislead their friends, and no one tells the truth; they have taught their tongues to lie and will not give up their sinning. They do one violent thing after another, and one deceitful act follows another. The Lord says that his people reject him.

7 Because of this the Lord Almighty says, "I will refine my people like metal and put them to the test. My people have done evil- what else can I do with them? 8 Their tongues are like deadly arrows; they always tell lies. Everyone speaks friendly words to their neighbors, but they are really setting a trap for them. 9 Will I not punish them for these things? Will I not take revenge on a nation like this? I, the Lord, have spoken."

(Amos chapter 2, NLT)

7 They trample helpless people in the dust and deny justice to those who are oppressed. Both father and son sleep with the same woman, corrupting my holy name. 8 At their religious festivals, they lounge around in clothing stolen from their debtors. In the house of their god, they present offerings of wine purchased with stolen money.

(Hosea chapter 12, TEV)

1 Everything that the people of Israel do from morning to night is useless and destructive. Treachery and acts of violence increase among them.

(Isaiah chapter 58, NLT)

1 "Shout with the voice of a trumpet blast. Tell my people Israel of their sins! 2 Yet they act so pious! They come to the Temple every day and seem delighted to hear my laws. You would almost think this was a righteous nation that would never abandon its God. They love to make a show of coming to me and asking me to take action on their behalf.

3 'We have fasted before you!' they say. 'Why aren't you impressed? We have done much penance, and you don't even notice it!'

"I will tell you why! It's because you are living for yourselves even while you are fasting. You keep right on oppressing your workers. 4 What good is fasting when you keep on fighting and quarreling? This kind of fasting will never get you anywhere with me. 5 You humble yourselves by going through the motions of penance, bowing your heads like a blade of grass in the wind. You dress in sackcloth and cover yourselves with ashes. Is this what you call fasting? Do you really think this will please the LORD?

6 "No, the kind of fasting I want calls you to free those who are wrongly imprisoned and to stop oppressing those who work for you. Treat them fairly and give them what they earn. 7 I want you to share your food with the hungry and to welcome poor wanderers into your homes. Give clothes to those who need them, and do not hide from relatives who need your help.

8 "If you do these things, your salvation will come like the dawn. Yes, your healing will come quickly. Your godliness will lead you forward, and the glory of the LORD will protect you from behind. 9 Then when you call, the LORD will answer. 'Yes, I am here,' he will quickly reply.

"Stop oppressing the helpless and stop making false accusations and spreading vicious rumors! 10 Feed the hungry and help those in trouble. Then your light will shine out from the darkness, and the darkness around you will be as bright as day. 11 The LORD will guide you continually, watering your life when you are dry and keeping you healthy, too. You will be like a well-watered garden, like an ever-flowing spring. 12 Your children will rebuild the deserted ruins of your cities. Then you will be known as the people who rebuild their walls and cities.

13 "Keep the Sabbath day holy. Don't pursue your own interests on that day, but enjoy the Sabbath and speak of it with delight as the LORD's holy day. Honor the LORD in everything you do, and don't follow your own desires or talk idly.

"If you do this, 14 the LORD will be your delight. I will give you great honor and give you your full share of the inheritance I promised to Jacob, your ancestor. I, the LORD, have spoken!"

(Hosea chapter 14, NIV)

1 Return, O Israel, to the LORD your God. Your sins have been your downfall!


The Bible says that God's punishments weren't always an end in themselves. They were often designed to bring the people back to him. In modern times, there is documented evidence that disasters do increase people's awareness of God. In the two world wars, people apparently became more interested in him, and after the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001 in America, the same thing happened; although often with one-off disasters, the people's interest in religion drops back to what it was beforehand after a while. That's not to say that those things were punishments from God. Only God will know what is a punishment from him and what isn't!

Nevertheless, biblical prophets described some of the disasters that befell the ancient Israelites as being punishments from God that had been designed to turn the people back to him, and thus to make them stop doing evil, which might have meant saving their souls in the after-life, as well as leading to the long-term good of their communities. For instance, he Old Testament prophet Amos told the Jews that God was saying:

(Amos chapter 4, NLT)

6 "I brought hunger to every city and famine to every town. But still you wouldn't return to me," says the LORD.

7 "I kept the rain from falling when you needed it the most, ruining all your crops. I sent rain on one town but withheld it from another. Rain fell on one field, while another field withered away. 8 People staggered from one town to another for a drink of water, but there was never enough. But still you wouldn't return to me," says the LORD.

9 "I struck your farms and vineyards with blight and mildew. Locusts devoured all your fig and olive trees. But still you wouldn't return to me," says the LORD.

10 "I sent plagues against you like the plagues I sent against Egypt long ago. I killed your young men in war and slaughtered all your horses. The stench of death filled the air! But still you wouldn't return to me," says the LORD.

11 "I destroyed some of your cities, as I destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Those of you who survived were like half-burned sticks snatched from a fire. But still you wouldn't return to me," says the LORD.

12 "Therefore, I will bring upon you all these further disasters I have announced. Prepare to meet your God as he comes in judgment, you people of Israel!"

The fear of God can be a powerful incentive to obey him. Thinking of him merely as a loving God may tend to make people less concerned to turn from wrongdoing, because they don't think it really matters to him. Interestingly, twice in a period of a few weeks, I heard ex-young offenders asked for their opinions on what kind of sentences people who had been found guilty of particular crimes ought to get, and I expected them to say that the people ought to be treated leniently and that the causes of their criminal behaviour ought to be addressed. However, on both occasions, they said the sentences ought to be tough; in fact on one occasion, their views were compared with those of the public in general, and they were found to be the harshest in their opinions. They said they thought long sentences were necessary as a deterrent.


The Old Testament prophets who warned of the Babylonian invasion urged the people to stop their sinful actions, saying that if they did, the invasion wouldn't happen. Apparently, however, they didn't listen, and it did.

To give some examples of passages where the people were informed that all would go well with them if they would only change their ways:

(Jeremiah chapter 7, NLT)

1 The LORD gave another message to Jeremiah. He said, 2 "Go to the entrance of the LORD's Temple, and give this message to the people: 'O Judah, listen to this message from the LORD! Listen to it, all of you who worship here! 3 The LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says:

"Even now, if you quit your evil ways, I will let you stay in your own land. 4 But do not be fooled by those who repeatedly promise your safety because the Temple of the LORD is here. 5 I will be merciful only if you stop your wicked thoughts and deeds and are fair to others; 6 and if you stop exploiting foreigners, orphans, and widows; and if you stop your murdering; and if you stop worshiping idols as you now do to your own harm. 7 Then I will let you stay in this land that I gave to your ancestors to keep forever.

(Jeremiah chapter 25, NLT)

1 This message for all the people of Judah came to Jeremiah from the LORD during the fourth year of Jehoiakim's reign over Judah. This was the year when King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon began his reign. 2 Jeremiah the prophet said to the people in Judah and Jerusalem, 3 "For the past twenty-three years - from the thirteenth year of Josiah son of Amon, king of Judah, until now - the LORD has been giving me his messages. I have faithfully passed them on to you, but you have not listened.

4 "Again and again, the LORD has sent you his prophets, but you have not listened or even tried to hear. 5 Each time the message was this: 'Turn from the evil road you are traveling and from the evil things you are doing. Only then will I let you live in this land that the LORD gave to you and your ancestors forever. 7 "But you would not listen to me," says the LORD.

(Jeremiah chapter 26, NIV)

1 Early in the reign of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, this word came from the LORD : 2 "This is what the LORD says: Stand in the courtyard of the LORD's house and speak to all the people of the towns of Judah who come to worship in the house of the LORD . Tell them everything I command you; do not omit a word. 3 Perhaps they will listen and each will turn from his evil way. Then I will relent and not bring on them the disaster I was planning because of the evil they have done.

Jeremiah pronounced doom on the temple and the people, and it was proposed that he be sentenced to death for it. The story continues:

12 Then Jeremiah said to all the officials and all the people: "The LORD sent me to prophesy against this house and this city all the things you have heard. 13 Now reform your ways and your actions and obey the LORD your God. Then the LORD will relent and not bring the disaster he has pronounced against you." ..

16 Then the officials and all the people said to the priests and the prophets, "This man should not be sentenced to death! He has spoken to us in the name of the LORD our God." 17 Some of the elders of the land stepped forward and said to the entire assembly of people, 18 "Micah of Moresheth prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah. He told all the people of Judah, 'This is what the LORD Almighty says:

" 'Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets.'

19 "Did Hezekiah king of Judah or anyone else in Judah put him to death? Did not Hezekiah fear the LORD and seek his favor? And did not the LORD relent, so that he did not bring the disaster he pronounced against them? We are about to bring a terrible disaster on ourselves!"

Years earlier, Isaiah had prophesied that God was saying:

Isaiah chapter 1 (TEV)

15 "When you lift your hands in prayer, I will not look at you. No matter how much you pray, I will not listen, for your hands are covered with blood.

16 Wash yourselves clean. Stop all this evil that I see you doing. Yes, stop doing evil 17 and learn to do right. See that justice is done-help those who are oppressed, give orphans their rights, and defend widows."

18 The Lord says, "Now, let's settle the matter. You are stained red with sin, but I will wash you as clean as snow. Although your stains are deep red, you will be as white as wool. 19 If you will only obey me, you will eat the good things the land produces. 20 But if you defy me, you are doomed to die. I, the Lord, have spoken."

The prophet Ezekiel said that God was saying:

Ezekiel chapter 18 (TEV)

30 "Now I, the Sovereign Lord, am telling you people of Israel that I will judge each of you by what you have done. Turn away from all the evil you are doing, and don't let your sin destroy you. 31 Give up all the evil you have been doing, and get yourselves new minds and hearts. Why do you people of Israel want to die? 32 I do not want anyone to die," says the Sovereign Lord. "Turn away from your sins and live."

later in the Old Testament, when describing things that it says happened after the people of Israel returned from having been taken captive in Babylon by the invaders, the Bible says:

(Zechariah chapter 1, NLT)

1 In mid Autumn of the second year of King Darius's reign, the LORD gave this message to the prophet Zechariah son of Berekiah and grandson of Iddo.

2 "I, the LORD, was very angry with your ancestors. 3 Therefore, say to the people, 'This is what the LORD Almighty says: Return to me, and I will return to you, says the LORD Almighty.' 4 Do not be like your ancestors who would not listen when the earlier prophets said to them, 'This is what the LORD Almighty says: Turn from your evil ways and stop all your evil practices.' 5 "Your ancestors and their prophets are now long dead. 6 But all the things I said through my servants the prophets happened to your ancestors, just as I said they would. As a result, they repented and said, 'We have received what we deserved from the LORD Almighty. He has done what he said he would do.'"


I think it's important that people read the Old Testament as well as the New one. The Bible indicates that it wasn't just the Jews whom God punished for their sins by causing invaders to rise up against them. Old Testament prophecies were given against other countries in the area as well. And in fact, some of them suggest that such punishments weren't just confined to ancient times.


For instance, the prophet Jeremiah said:

(Jeremiah chapter 18, TEV)

5 The Lord said to me, 7 If at any time I say that I am going to uproot, break down, or destroy any nation or kingdom, 8 but then that nation turns from its evil, I will not do what I said I would. 9 On the other hand, if I say that I am going to plant or build up any nation or kingdom, 10 but then that nation disobeys me and does evil, I will not do what I said I would.

And the prophet Ezekiel said:

(Ezekiel chapter 14, TEV)

12 The Lord spoke to me. 13 "Mortal man," he said, "if a country sins and is unfaithful to me, I will reach out and destroy its supply of food. I will send a famine and kill people and animals alike. 14 Even if those three men, Noah, Danel, and Job, were living there, their goodness would save only their own lives." The Sovereign Lord has spoken.

15 "Or I might send wild animals to kill the people, making the land so dangerous that no one could travel through it, 16 and even if those three men lived there-as surely as I, the Sovereign Lord, am the living God-they would not be able to save even their own children. They would save only their own lives, and the land would become a wilderness.

17 "Or I might bring war on that country and send destructive weapons to wipe out people and animals alike, 18 and even if those three men lived there-as surely as I, the Sovereign Lord, am the living God-they would not be able to save even their children, but only their own lives.

19 "If I send an epidemic on that country and in my anger take many lives, killing people and animals, 20 even if Noah, Danel, and Job lived there-as surely as I, the Sovereign Lord, am the living God-they would not be able to save even their own children. Their goodness would save only their own lives."


Ezekiel, who was prone to having visions that were explained as being from God and given to him to symbolise prophetic truths, also said, when prophesying about the Babylonian invasion:

(Ezekiel chapter 9, NLT)

1 Then the LORD thundered, "Bring on the men appointed to punish the city [of Jerusalem]! Tell them to bring their weapons with them!" 2 Six men soon appeared from the upper gate that faces north, each carrying a battle club in his hand. One of them was dressed in linen and carried a writer's case strapped to his side. They all went into the Temple courtyard and stood beside the bronze altar. 3 Then the glory of the God of Israel rose up from between the cherubim, where it had rested, and moved to the entrance of the Temple. And the LORD called to the man dressed in linen who was carrying the writer's case. 4 He said to him, "Walk through the streets of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of all those who weep and sigh because of the sins they see around them."

5 Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! 6 Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple."


It sounds as if the vision was prophesying that the people concerned about sin would be protected somehow from the suffering caused by the Babylonian invasion, but that a lot of people who may not have been really bad would still suffer. But then, what decent person could look on at or hear about sin and not be disturbed by it? There are a few other Bible verses that indicate that very good people would be spared somehow, and a few that say that God would look with compassion on the people who were taken as prisoners to Babylon. For instance:

(Jeremiah chapter 24, NLT)

4 Then the LORD gave me this message: 6 I have sent them into captivity for their own good. I will see that they are well treated, and I will bring them back here again. I will build them up and not tear them down. I will plant them and not uproot them. 7 I will give them hearts that will recognize me as the LORD. They will be my people, and I will be their God, for they will return to me wholeheartedly.

(Jeremiah chapter 29, TEV)

4 "The Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says to all those people whom he allowed Nebuchadnezzar to take away as prisoners from Jerusalem to Babylonia:

5 "Build houses and settle down. Plant gardens and eat what you grow in them. 6 Marry and have children. Then let your children get married, so that they also may have children. You must increase in numbers and not decrease. 7 Work for the good of the cities where I have made you go as prisoners. Pray to me on their behalf, because if they are prosperous, you will be prosperous too.

10 "The Lord says, "When Babylonia's seventy years are over, I will show my concern for you and keep my promise to bring you back home. 11 I alone know the plans I have for you, plans to bring you prosperity and not disaster, plans to bring about the future you hope for. 12 Then you will call to me. You will come and pray to me, and I will answer you. 13 You will seek me, and you will find me because you will seek me with all your heart. 14 Yes, I say, you will find me, and I will restore you to your land. I will gather you from every country and from every place to which I have scattered you, and I will bring you back to the land from which I had sent you away into exile. I, the Lord, have spoken.'


Nevertheless, the punishments in the Bible do sometimes seem excessively harsh and indiscriminate. There are one or two verses that indicate that many decent people did suffer. The prophet Jeremiah, while proclaiming that God had decreed punishment against one of Israel's neighbouring countries, said:

(Jeremiah chapter 49, TEV)

12 "If even those who did not deserve to be punished had to drink from the cup of punishment, do you think that you will go unpunished? No, you must drink from the cup!


However, maybe when seen from an eternal perspective, death is just a momentary thing to God. One reason it might not seem such a big thing to him as it does to us is that he will know what's in store for godly people in the afterlife. In one place, the Bible says,

(Isaiah chapter 57, NLT)

1 The righteous pass away; the godly often die before their time. And no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. 2 For the godly who die will rest in peace.

And regarding children, in the New Testament, the Bible says:

(Mark chapter 10, NLT)

13 One day some parents brought their children to Jesus so he could touch them and bless them, but the disciples told them not to bother him. 14 But when Jesus saw what was happening, he was very displeased with his disciples. He said to them, "Let the children come to me. Don't stop them! For the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these.


Therefore, perhaps it's an advantage to die while a little child in a way, if Jesus meant that little children will go to heaven. The older a person is, the more likely they will be to have done things that make them deserving of being sent to hell.

However, though we think of children as innocent, they can actually be very cruel, even if they can't be held so accountable as adults. For examples of this, visit: Messages From Pupils (Anti-Bullying Network).


In the first book of the Bible, Genesis, it describes a world-wide flood that it says was brought about by God to destroy the majority of mankind because:

(Genesis chapter 6, CEV)

5 The LORD saw how bad the people on earth were and that everything they thought and planned was evil. 6 He was very sorry that he had made them, 7 and he said, "I'll destroy every living creature on earth! I'll wipe out people, animals, birds, and reptiles. I'm sorry I ever made them."

8 ... Noah was the only person who lived right and obeyed God. 11-12 God knew that everyone was terribly cruel and violent. 13 So he told Noah: Cruelty and violence have spread everywhere. Now I'm going to destroy the whole earth and all its people.


Again, the punishment seems indiscriminate. Many children would have been killed along with the vast majority of the rest of humanity, and there must surely have been some adults who weren't really corrupt!

However, if the children, and even if some of the other adults had been spared - the guilty being destroyed in a way that would have left fairly decent people unharmed, many - or most - of the children would have gone on to suffer a worse fate. Many of them may have found it difficult to fend for themselves in a world so depleted of adults or relatives, and slowly starved to death. If the animals had been left on earth, the children may have been terrorised by the predators and eventually eaten by them. If the predators had been killed but God had left all the other animals on earth, conditions would have been so favourable to them that they would have overpopulated the place. Mankind's food supply of all but meat would have grown very scarce as it was continually raided/eaten by animals. If, at a later date, predators had been reintroduced somehow to solve the problem, they would have had such a large food supply consisting of other animals that they in turn would have overpopulated earth because it would have been so easy for them to survive. When their animal food supply began to run down, they would have been even more of a threat to humans than they'd ever been before, because there would be far more of them looking for food.

Killing the young children would also have put a stop for some time to the cycle of violence, whereby many of the children who've been abused in early life go on to be abusers. The violent cycle would have gradually built up again, but for a while, there may have been much less violence than there had been previously. For more information on the cycle of abuse, see:

Another reason why children were not spared may have been that, as research has found, children who become involved in violent gangs will often be lacking father figures, and that children without fathers are more likely to become involved in criminal behaviour, partly through lack of supervision, especially if the families live in poverty. Therefore, if many of the children had survived, they may have gone on to wreak suffering and lawlessness on the people of the earth as they grew older. See:

It's also questionable as to whether in dying in the flood, the children really would have suffered more than they would have done otherwise, especially in the absence of modern organisations with the knowhow and resources to rehabilitate abused children. They would have died anyway at some point, as everybody does, and if the world was, as the Bible says, full of violence, many of them may have been being subjected to persistent child abuse, and perhaps been terrorised by other children. See examples of abuse from modern times: